S-rank Dev Post #4: Peeking into the wilderness

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Coin for blood. But only if their loss is greater than yours.

[[ Stark minimalism there, not gunna lie. There are some bushes in the background for the impression of movement during travel and after the actual meat of gameplay is done I’m probably going to spend some project time (there aught to be some remaining) to add to the background objects. Wouldn’t mind a parallax effect. Maybe a skyline and some hills way in the distance, slowly moving to the left as you travel right.

For now the copper and skill points show continually but I’d like to hide them except when an increase in one occurs.

And the S-rank runt is pictured for the first time! ]]

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The comics trolls use to talk

From a toxic person I got passed a comic link as a reply (I said they were toxic) : https://xkcd.com/1860/

Now usually what I’ve seen from xkcd are some reasonably smart comics? Why does this one nose dive?

If you’re interested in what someone is saying, then you want to know what they mean by the words they use. You don’t want to know someone else’s words, you don’t want to know your own projection onto the words. You want to know what they mean.

Or you don’t care what they mean.

So where does this comic go? The other person doesn’t care what the first is saying? How is that any more funny than the person saying “I don’t care what you’re saying”. That’d be a joke that falls utterly flat.

Are there people who resent the idea that someone wouldn’t want words put in their mouth? Or be told what their own words mean?

“How dare you think what YOU mean is something YOU get to decide! I shall parody this notion!”

How does this make sense to the author or the toxic person who linked it? I’d suggest it doesn’t – it’s some bizarre control issue. Like a forge defined prima donna who can’t let anyone else have the spotlight in a game, this person resents anyone else actually getting to decide what they mean. To the point where someone else thinking they get to decide what they mean is some kind of joke?

Tomb of Annihilation : Havoc at Hrakhamar

A bit of an account of play, some tips on running Hrakhamar, an approach to risk/reward and some rough thoughts and rough procedure for handling escaping a losing battle.

This being an Adventure League game, you have players dropping in and out. Maybe you anticipate five to six players, but suddenly you drop to the minimum three. First lesson for some of my prep is to calculate an encounter with the barest minimum players in mind so I don’t have to eyeball it. I actually eyeballed it pretty well in the end, but…wow…

Anyway, the group had actually entered the previous session, traveled to the west, went south but found it too long a tunnel then went back north and had rescued some captive dwarves there. Then they had advanced north over a bridge that reached over lava, finding themselves facing some kind of reptilian riding beasts up about sixty feet ahead. So that session was out of time and it was left on that decision, when they had about five players at the table.

This time around they have three – I suggest maybe the others have succumbed to jungle fevers and had retreated out of the dungeon.

Now down to mechanics – the original scenario had 12 giant striders and they are supposed to break free 1D3 at a time if they see the party, attacking them.

And…that’s it. They just attack.

Instead I proposed that there were two groups of giant striders – the closer is a group of 7 and a further group is a group of 3. The furthest 3 had one of them with a pack on it’s back – some kind of treasure! BUT I said, they looked easily panicked – they would escape through an exit to the east if the PC’s just run at the group of 7 striders. Take them all on and you get treasure, take on just part of them and you don’t – but you fight fewer creatures and you’re clearing part of the foundry of its invaders.

Risk Vs reward

Of course players try and come at it sideways, so it becomes a matter of trying to keep the challenge to some degree while compromising with the players approach. One idea is trying to stealth down the corridor, but as I see it there’s really no cover so it would be hard (I was vaguely thinking a DC in the 20 to 25 range. Probably not all that impossible since the monk has pass without trace)

They opt to use a cloud of darkness – now I assumed they meant to do it on the group of 3 to keep them there but inactive as they fought the 7 (I guess they are hoping the group of 3 are deaf (ie, the players hope I’ll be so engaged by cloud of darkness I’ll forget the things can hear) or the creatures blunder into walls instead of joining the fight). I may have missheard and they wanted to drop the cloud on the group of 7. But I gave it a 20% chance of affecting the group of 3 by keeping them there AND keeping them out of the fight, as a compromise ground instead of just saying ‘Nah, it doesn’t work!’. I also establish before the cloud is used that the group of three will run if the percentile roll fails. So the roll fails – I’d have used the same percentile if the cloud had been on the group of seven, so much the same difference.

So it fails, as stated the group of 3 run and the group of 7 get angry at the PCs. It’s a ten foot wide tunnel and the PCs are shoulder to shoulder (so to speak) blocking it, so only two giant striders can bite at them at a time! And their bites aren’t that nasty.

BUT what’s this?

Giant striders apparently have fire burst! They can spit fire 60 feet, it has a blast radius of 10 feet and does a respectable 4D6 damage! It also recharges on a 5 to 6, but that wont come into this account – it didn’t need to.

Possibly an old GMing instinct came to the fore here. Now remember that the original encounter is 12 giant striders. And though they enter the fight in 1D3 amounts, err, they have a ranged attack – why would they need to pull away from their posts to range attack? So in the original, imagine 12 firebursts landing on the party?

So that old GM instinct? I had only three of them do a fireburst. The party is blocking the corridor and no one has said they want to stay spread out, so they are in a nice cluster. And I’d rolled really good initiative, so I go first (the barbarian isn’t raging)

Party is around level 5 on average, some scratches from previous fights. Three dex saves each, thanks! 14 damage on a fail, 7 on a save.

Two PCs instantly go unconscious and are dying!

On the barbarians turn he rages then grabs one in each hand and flees with them, taking two attacks of opportunity – which he shrugs off.

Now, how to do pursuit? Because this is basically what decides if they are going to die or not.

Factors in the PCs favour – they haven’t actually hurt the monsters and the monsters are beasts, probably inclined to run off interlopers rather than run them down like terminators the moment they see them. Or so I see it, anyway. Different GMs will see it in different ways.

I decide to roll a D20 to determine it, roughly considering what the results are – on a 1 or 2 the creatures probably will pursue them like a terminator for at least a couple of rounds. Maybe downing the barbarian and it becomes a sad TPK? Granted, I didn’t set it in stone – I guess if I rolled 1 to 2, I’d evaluate the mood at the table and still give a smidge extra room for PC maneuvering. Perhaps if the player proposes something to avoid attacks, like jumping into a side tunnel (there were some) I might have them roll stealth, even though it’d be kind of patently obvious to the creatures they are going that way, perhaps some chance moment lets the PC carrying two bodies just slip out of the monsters perception. It’d be at least one more roll between the party and a potential TPK.

The main thing is, I don’t just think ‘what is there’ and adjudicate from that – I try to look at what is there AND give some leeway to the players. Why? Because ‘what is there’ is subjective. Me saying ‘There is no way to avoid them and they just come down on you and nom nom nom you’re all dead’ isn’t somehow the game world killing the PCs, it’s just me killing them. Nup, no good. For my game: Players need to kill themselves with their own decisions, and as a GM you craft decisions that if they choose wrong or roll bad, could lead to death. If the striders kept chasing them and the players just keep running, if running doesn’t get them clear of the attacks then they need to do something else to survive. If they choose not to do something else, then they just die. That’s the scenario you have to craft.

But as it was, the D20 came up with a nat 20! This would seem to auger quite a good result – which to me means the giant striders feel they have seen off the interlopers (maybe thinking in their animal way they killed two of them) and so they go back to their resting place, leaving the Barbarian alone! Then healing potions, for the healer of the party was not at the table that night.

Wow, that took awhile to write up – this took maybe a third of a two hour session. I’m going to say that in the end, due to the traumatic nature of the encounter, I gave them half XP for the giant striders. It was a learning experience! Maybe some wouldn’t agree with giving XP for an occasional combat that was lost, but I don’t know, they gave it a good shot – to not give XP would be like not paying soldiers when they lost a battle they really tried for. Kind of a double loss if you do that.

Oh, and I’ll link to my Tomb of Annihilation Tips post as well, in case it’s handy for anyone reading this.

S-Rank Dev Post #3 – Your first steps into the pit

I’ve assembled the graphic images to create the kernal of the combat system – this involves attacking the S-rank, keeping a sharp eye for it readying an attack and using a shield block to block the attack.

Now in terms of where you start in the world. I’m thinking of it being in a fighting pit – a new recruit is thrown in with a captured, chained S-rank, to learn his tutelage without having to go out into the wilds and run into a mob of ’em straight away.

Latter I want to have some animations to further establish the threat of the S-rank. But for now at this point an S-rank, chain running from the collar on its neck, comes out. Then the instruction text comes up, which no one reads *eyeroll*, then the human fighter comes in. The S-rank lunges at him, meets the full extension of his chain and falls back. Then combat proper begins.

If the player looses here, they fall back and get patched up, since the creature is chained and can’t follow to finish the job. This lets you figure your way in the world without learning by dying. Not yet, anyway!

Dev hours: 5

S-Rank Dev Post #2

I was going to just do some work in progress at for the human fighter, but it sort of came out as an art style in itself. I’m considering redoing the S-rank at some point in the same style. Time spent: 1h10m

Anyway, the same old disclaimer: this is not from a triple A studio. This is not from an artist who will let the work dictate how many hours are put into it. And I’m not a trained artist.
HumanIdle
Idle pose
HumanStab
Stab pose

In future I imagine being able to have upgrades for the weapon and shield, which start at a buckler and dagger. Also maybe swapping hair style and facial structure.

But lets get to having a game first, eh, before we talk about how we customise our game! 🙂

Stab pose actually has two frames, I’ve just not posted the second. Same for the idle pose. And there’s a block pose as well, not pictured, for blocking S-rank attacks.

 

S-Rank Dev Post #1

A lot of fan art for the second apocalypse books is done in a stark black and white style, with only some relieving grey. Occasional use of red. I haven’t permission to use these artists and I would hate to use them as placeholder art only to have to give them up latter to my own art should I be unable to get permission. So I’m starting out from my own efforts.

I don’t have an activated drawing pad myself, so I’m doing mouse art with the free Gimp program. As I’ve said, I’m not a triple A studio. Personally I like the charm of home made creations – I think we are too beholden to corporations and their ideologies if we only accept the art they pay and direct artists to make as if that’s the only good stuff. We should appreciate what we can make in our own homes, or we lose more power by not doing so. Took me 30 minutes. I go at a pace because I have quite a different philosophy from artists who let the artwork decide how many hours they’ll put into it.

I hope I’ve depicted the legs in such a way as to be like the hind legs of a dog, for I think the books depicted its creatures that way. Of course the S-rank is a totally different creature :), and the mythological creature ‘Pan’ was depicted with goats rear legs, so this is similar to that. Call it a satire/satyr…hehe. It’s in JPG form here

 

S-Rank

This is ‘idle’ stance 1. A second stance with slightly shifted limbs is the next one to make a sense of breathing and flexing. The S-rank doesn’t take up all the space in its frame as I imagine them being shorter than a man. More goblinoid.

There’s a little grubbiness around the image, but to be frank I think it suits the setting. It’s not a clean setting.

Latter will be a two frame attack animation, then a modification of that for a power attack animation.

After that it’s a matter of making a human character, with it’s own idle animation, two stage attack animation and a shield block animation.

If there are any artists who have art and want to give permission to use their art in this non commercial venture (well, I might post the game on Kongregate at some point, but basically non commercial), leave a comment and we can talk.

I’ve started doing art after doing the basic monster attack/player parry responce code.

Like most development, there is no conclusive end one can end on – things are created, but until the game is done, there isn’t an ending. 1 hour of coding and 30 minutes of art so far – I’m happy with the results. Whether my happiness, Venn diagram style, overlaps with anyone else’s happiness – well, I post as to see if I’m just walking down my own road or if there are others beside me.

Dramatic Movie Come Backs in Fights and how your Role Play wont do that

The thing is novels and movies tend to make gamers think of ‘titanic battles’ – but the authors of novels and movies just decide what happens. They don’t use mechanics.

In fact what authors depict time and again might be utter bullshit in real statistical terms.

In fact if you watch fights in movies you can see the same pattern over and over – the good guy gets beat up in order to provoke the audience into feeling ‘You’ve got to win!’ as an emotion. Then the author has the main character win, now that the audience will buy it happening because the audience wanted it to happen.

How would this look in terms of stats? The protagonist would just suddenly get large bonuses to their combat stats, coming out of thin air.

Every time the hero makes a come back in a fight in a movie or book, statistically it makes no sense at all.

So how do you represent that in a system based on statistics?

Something like The Riddle of Steel RPG had spiritual attributes. You didn’t so much have a sudden spike mid combat, but characters pursuit of their goals would produce statistical increases out of thin air. You could try to argue it’s a ‘morale bonus’, but it isn’t (it has an essay in it describing how it isn’t a simulation)

But in the end it really is a question of whether you want simulation or want completely meta game elements to have a strong say in play. If you want simulation, you’re stuck with never having the mid combat comeback by PCs (except in statistically rare/once in a blue moon occasions).

By simulationism I mean if daily attacks bother you (why can’t you do it all day or have to use energy points to activate it) or prone snakes bother you, yeah, you’re likely coming from a simulationist inclination.

I originally posted this here.