Game Blame

Regarding here.

And here

Messed up: The GM making the player roll and then making up whatever result suits him.
Messed up: Rolling constantly for stuff that doesn’t matter.
Messed up: The GM feeding you information a bit at a time, on his own schedule, to control “the story.”

Now, what else does someone need to say, to indicate they are blaming the GM for the choices he made?

What’s an example of someone actually blaming him? Perhaps “What he chose to do is messed up!”. Surely it could be sympathised that the above reads as blame to someone?

And in the end it bugs me – someone can always say ‘Oh, you read my intent totally wrong’ and how can you prove them wrong on their own intent? But by the same token how could you absolutely know? There’s some level of assumption that aught to get a bit of forgiveness, otherwise the conversation crawls to a snails pace “So when you say you roleplayed, do you mean you played chess…I just can’t assume anything…”

Not to mention the real issue I was trying to raise is that all of this focuses attention on the GM, rather than on the rule system he was working under. Blame, if any, isn’t the issue. The issue is the real problem isn’t being addressed, and that’s true regardless of whether there was blame or not. All of the post is focused on introducing ideas like ‘Say yes or roll’ to the GM or defining stakes really clearly with the GM.

In the end, what does someone have to say before you can safely consider them to be blaming someone?

I dunno, I guess there was some sublime work around for this that I could have instead used, but I think there just doesn’t seem to be an end to learning these work arounds. Keep learning enough of them and you go insane, don’t keep learning them and your a bad apple.

The forge – probably a sign of it’s wrapping up

You know, if I wanted to say that at a gaming session someone rolled percentile and checked whether it got under the weapon skill to hit or not (and if it did, they go to damage), would I then have to go and describe a gaming session in particular detail where that happened or you just don’t get it?

I’d think not.

But I try and say ‘Hey, I hypothesize some people use a process where they only allow rules to be used if it makes sense for them to be used. Any rule is moot if it does not ‘make sense’, do I need to detail utterly an actual play account? Can I even, more than I already have?

That’s where I got up to in the latest forge thread. And I got a line delivered to me I thought I’d only hear in two and a half men (if I watched it) “Quit whining, we respect you!”. Goes along with such, hopefully only comedy classics as “Of course your smart, you dumbass”.

I haven’t been back to the thread for days. I was already moving on in spite of the rudeness and really now – well, they seem to think they deserve a responce even with how they act. Rather than appreciating the work put in it’s just their due.

Worst thing is quite a few people actually seemed to get the general direction I was shooting for, giving examples or saying they were a practioner themselves. So I only had a couple of bad eggs. Of course when one is a moderator that’s a problem.

The requirement is to discuss AP. The sticky post says this can be done vaguely (as I last read it). As much as the percentile roll above basically is actual play and you can’t describe it much more, in terms of the mechanism I’m focusing on that’s about it. It’s just a simple process – it doesn’t require more complex AP account and really, can’t in a way without starting to talk about things that just aren’t related to it. Ie, I don’t want to focus on interplayer relationships and some bigger shebang – I’d do a post on it if I wanted to.

I said in the post you don’t know what someones motive is – but I’d suspect here that this level of ‘moderation’ – I think I kicked a sacred cow. I did with one other poster who just wanted to declare its how all roleplay is done and thus there’s nothing to be talked about, no examination to be made.

One time someone added a bonus to hit to a d20 roll. One time someone used a process where the decided they wouldn’t use a rule, because it doesn’t make sense.

“Holy crap, freaking do the respect of describing actual play!”

I have no clue what triggers this or how it makes sense to be saying/writing it. I’ve met the loose conditions set out in the sticky post. That or the sticky post is shit at describing the conditions. OR you can just decide the sticky is great and fine and I’m deliberately being a bad person.

Wreckage.